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Zippy's avatar

It is interesting to note that the Orange Oaf is very much into dramatizing revenge upon his perceived "enemies". His passion for such is described somewhere in his book. Perhaps not to the degree of killing them but certainly to the maximum degree possible.

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Misha Valdman's avatar

You can distinguish retribution from revenge, but your case against the latter applies equally to the former (ultimately, what does it matter if you're standing up for yourself or standing up for others?). And although seeking retribution or revenge is irrational in every particular case, stripping them from your emotional repertoire entirely would be the equivalent of announcing that you don't matter.

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Tim Lieder's avatar

You think isrselis want revenge? You frame the while conflict as if Israel is some girl with a wounded father wanting to get back? Israel wants security which is why Israel has repeatedly offered the Palestinians everything they wanted, except the genocide they truly desire.

They still want to kill us.

https://open.substack.com/pub/marlowe1/p/action-illinois-by-mary-gaitskill?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android&r=sllf3

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Galen Strawson's avatar

In fact I wasn't thinking about Israel at all — neither when I wrote the piece twenty-two years ago, nor when I put it up on substack.

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